GET OUT OF OUR LIVES!
Yesterday, Tuesday, 05 December 2006, during an interview on Dennis Prager’s radio show, Rudy made the following statement that has had the Conservative blogosphere all a 'twitter this morning. Some are even saying it “may well be the quote of century”:
"I think we should be a society in which government, when it can, sort of extricates itself from people's personal lives."
By clicking here you may listen to the entire Prager interview with Rudy. If you have "pod cast" capability, you may actually view the interview. At the end of this posting, I have reproduced a sampling of blogosphere commentary this morning on the interview.
As you will see below, "tax cuts" and "leave me alone" have been the most commented upon aspects of the interview. For my money, however, the most "immediate" issue was Rudy's flat statement that he is opposed to same-sex marriage, and always has been: "Marriage should be between a man and a woman." At the same time Rudy believes that "civil unions" -- called "domestic partnerships" in New York when Rudy, as Mayor, signed legislation approving them -- are a viable way to address the issue and afford gays and lesbians equal protection of the law as they live their lives.
Take note that this flat statement came less than 24 hours after Tom Brokaw said on "Hardball with Campbell Brown" that Rudy could not win the Republican nomination because he is in favour of "gay marriage". Play a mental game with yourself and see if Mr. Brokaw ever corrects himself. Please take note, also, that this statement of position by Rudy is almost exactly how I have articulated for you all in the past what I had sussed out his position to be.
In sum, the entire Prager interview points up, to me at least, why I support Rudy so strongly: In addition to his toughness on crime and terrorism, his tax cutting record, etc., this interview shows him to be a strong National-Security and Fiscal Conservative with a strong (small "l") libertarian streak. This is almost exactly how I would describe myself.
The only significant issue of Principle left is "Federalism" -- which is the latest euphemism for "States' Rights" -- and Rudy appears to be making "Federalism" a central plank in his campaign platform, e.g., "strict constructionist" judges, social issues left to state legislatures, etc. For me that squares the circle.
Yet, the Tom Brokaws of the world keep saying Rudy is too "liberal" for the Republican "Base". Well, hogwash! Dare I say it? This man could be a more significant President than Ronald Reagan! Both in the sense of what he would do as President and in sense of how the MSM will continue either to ignore or underestimate him until he has absolutely eaten their lunch!
Finally, I would ask all McCainiacs to take especial note of Rudy's conciliatory, diplomatic, indeed praising comments about the good Senator, who will most likely prove to be Rudy's principal rival for the GOP nomination in 2008. Could it be that Rudy is consciously resurrecting Ronald Reagan's vaunted "11th Commandment"? Could we really be once again on the verge of "Morning in America". Ah, 'tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.
My ultimate conclusion: Run Rudy Run!
And now, the blogosphere commentary on the Prager interview:
10 Responses to "Quote of the Day"
- jake Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
That should be the mantra of the Republican Party, repeated by every candidate when he wakes up in the morning, before every speech, and again before he goes to sleep.
- Zach Mayo Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Take out the "sort of" and that may well be the quote of century. Of course, this is only a step away from the "out of my pocketbook, out of my bedroom" rhetoric that so angers the so-cons (mostly that latter half). Being a social moderate myself, I don't care much whether Giuliani was thinking about abortion when he said this.
- DaveG Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Dare I say it's morning in America again?
- jake Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Dave G. . .nice.
- Zach Mayo Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
Well, Dave, I dare say that Rudy Giuliani's staff would love for you to make that particular connection .
- Nusrat Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
Is it just me, or is Giuliani the closest thing a small-l libertarian like myself will get to the perfect candidate?
- Nusrat Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
(In a major party, that is)
- DaveG Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
Nusrat: It's not just you
- Steve Says:
December 6th, 2006 at 12:31 am
As a social conservative (as well as a fiscon and neocon), and a Republican that knows that without social conservatives the Republican candidate can never win, I find this statement troubling. I was close to being able to enthusiastically supporting Rudy if he were the nominee. Now, I'm significantly less sure.
- DaveG Says:
December 6th, 2006 at 1:01 am
Hi Steve,
Just to make sure you know, this statement wasn't code for any sort of position on abortion. It came up in the context of taxes and civil unions, and Rudy was arguing that his opposition to taxes, and his support in NYC for ensuring that gay citizens are afforded the same legal protections that the rest of us enjoy as we live our lives, both stem from his political philosophy, which is articulated in our quote of the century above. Beyond that, I guess I would just ask to what extent you would disagree with the general principle that government should generally err on the side of not meddling in people's lives? If it's abortion that you're concerned about, I think it's quite possible to be a small-l libertarian and pro-life, and it's definitely possible to be a small-l libertarian and support judges who defer to the democratic process.
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And, in response to a posting entitled “Still Think Rudy’s Not Running” announcing that Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Management Sandra Pack will leave her post and head to Giuliani's exploratory committee, the following:
7 Responses to "Still Think Rudy's Not Running?"
- Paul8148 Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
Yes. It also helps to get some non-New York blood on his team. Romney has got the Republicans to "op-resource" guy on board for the Republican party.
- Methepeople Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
For Rudy fans, he was interviewed on Dennis Prager's show today, both at the end of the second hour and also at the beginning of the third hour.
Dennis asked him questions about Iraq/War on Terror and Israel as well as domestic issues like tax cuts, same-sex marriage, and campaign finance reform. He also asked Rudy about John McCain. Rudy was great- candid, much more conservative than I expected, and the way he talked about he and McCain running against each other made it clear that he is running.
Also, I think Kavon had said he supposed that Rudy might take the Reagan route and not "bash" other candidates...he's right. When asked about McCain, Rudy played his cards WELL. I, being a Romney fan, conceded that that attitude might win him the nomination. But you gotta hear it for yourself. It's the first interview that I'm aware of that he made after the exploratory committee announcement.
- Jennifer Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Mr Meet the People, What did he say on the social issues? Did he make a strong judges pitch?
- Methepeople Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
He was not asked about judges. He said that he was against same-sex marriage- "Marriage is between a man and a woman." He conceded that he signed civil union bill when he was mayor, but compared it to domestic partnership (in a pretty disarming way). He is pro tax cuts, and cited the Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush administrations as evidence that tax cuts spur the economy.
He also said the McCain-Feingold had many loopholes, but that he was used to it because he ran for mayor under a CFR system. But he said he didn't like McCain-Feingold, but that to McCain's credit, Rudy thought McCain has realized some of the problems that were unforeseen at the time of the legislation. He said the CFR was easily as complex as the current tax code.
- Jennifer Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
Dear MethePeople(sorry for the prior typo):
Sounds somewhat convincing. I always thought his best social conservative gambit would be that he went into the lion's den-cleaning up NY, fighting the cross defilers, defending the cops against the ACLU. Any push on that?
- Methepeople Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
Nope. It wasn't that long of an interview. I think a main message I got from the interview was: "I'm not liberal like you thought." It's RUDY that almost sounded like the heir apparent to Bush, rather than McCain.
- DaveG Says:
December 5th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I thought Rudy knocked the ball out of the park. My favorite line came when Rudy was making the distinction between his opposition for SSM and support for civil unions. He basically said that while we shouldn't change the definition of marriage, we should give gay individuals the ability to be protected under the law as they live their lives. He then pointed out that this is consistent with his philosophy of generally *getting government out of people's lives.*
I also thought that his Iraq response was good. Basically argued that we can't pull out now, not for some amorphous reason like the need to establish a utopia on the Euphrates, but for the simple reason that if we do, it will likely empower Iran even more and will create a hotbed for terrorist production. I assume Rudy means that if we leave now, it won't be long before Iraq becomes a Shia-led mini-Iran. The thing is, he's probably right. Rudy said we must leave a “stable” Iraq behind.